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i will see you from new york tomorrow night. here comes mr. bill. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight: >> we can do better than enricco englassous. tonight i'm not trucking you, i'm flanking you. >> i'm not going to say that on this show. >> laura ingraham gives mat lauer on the decline of american culture. miss laura will be here. >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty. >> casey anthony set to be released from prison this coming sunday. how much will it cost to protect her from angry americans? >> come on. is it legal is investigating. >> this debt limit increase is his problem. and i think it's time for him to leave by putting his plan on the table. >> and karl rove will predict if a debt deal will be reached and how that will happen. caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. captions by closed captioning services
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>> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the folks sound off on the bitter debt crisis. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. last night we had a very lively debate with congresswoman michele bachmann whom we respect. she said there is no way she is voting to raise the debt ceiling no matter how many spending cuts are put for the. that puts her at odds with republican speaker of the house john boehner and other g.o.p. politicians who are trying to get a deal. now, opinion on ms. bachmann's rigid stance was divided but many of you support her despite being warned by brit hume and others no debt deal will have severe economic consequences. if you buy stocks you know the market hates uncertainty. foreign investors may look elsewhere if no debt deal is reached. the u.s. market becomes risky. nevertheless, the antigovernment mail poured. in mike who lives in madison, georgia. bill, you don't understand that the u.s. imperial government will just have to prioritize.
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>> bill: i am floored you would be there would be a financial crisis. awful i can say, mike, is that i don't know of one financial analyst who believes not getting a deal done would be a good thing for the economy. not one. then there is tom sheen than who lives in butler, pennsylvania. o'reilly geithner and the president are wrong. we don't need to raise the debt limit. you can't prove tarp saved the financial system. can i tell you this tom, i have spoken to president bush face to face about the tarp deal and he absolutely said financial ruin was avoided. i have got to go with that now, a lot of anti-deal business is anti-obama driven. here's what the president said today. >> can you tell the folks at home that no matter what happens, the social security checks are going to go out on august the 3rd? >> i cannot guarantee that those checks go out on august 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. because there may simply not be the money in the covers to do coffers to do it. >> financial experts like stuart
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varney do not believe that he says the check also go out in august but other federal functions will be cut back. brit hume made the same last night. felt by americans even if some measures won't accept it my job is to look out to you not to pander to you. president obama and the democratic party must drastically cut spending and put it in writing. also must hold the current tax rates in the face of the faltering economy. if the dems do those things, responsible republicans must raise the debt ceiling one more time, one more time for the good of everyone. and that's the memo. karl rove will have more on this later on. but for now, the top story not are economics dividing americans but our culture is changing for the worse. so says laura ingraham in her new book of thee i zing. america's cultural decline from muffin tops to body shops. she brought her opinion to nbc
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this morning. >> summer concert series see low green. >> i know the song. >> blank you. >> is that the way you want to end this blank you? is that the way we are going to do this? [ laughter ] >> if i lit up a cigarette right now, if i just lit up? what would happen if i did this. >> the alarms would go off and they would throw a bucket of water on you. >> we have agreed that this is not good. we have agreed on television probably not a good thing to show that to the kids. all i'm saying is and love you guys. all i'm saying is we can bring it up. like tony bennett. love it awesome. you have some great people booked but look we can do better that enricco englassous tonight i'm not trucking you tonight i'm blanking you. >> not going to say that on this show. >> bill: here now the culture warrior laura ingraham. enrico englassous where did we come from all the girls i loved before to i want to truck you. >> i don't believe for a moment that you love those guys over
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there. >> i think a lot -- i think a lot of the elite, they don't want this stuff for their kids. but in their professional lives, you know, hanging chilly with rihanna and lady gaga because they have huge numbers in sales, they do. i think a lot of these people don't want these kids anywhere near this stuff. >> judgment about behavior as you do. i read your book. it's very entertaining and people should take a look at it? >> they should read it because it's hilarious but serious at the same time. we have to laugh through this pain that we are all. in you were the original culture warrior. >> that's right. >> you were on a boat in your culture warrior book. look i'm on a boat, too. an older boat. >> your clothing is not the same. >> had you a better wind breaker than i do. >> bill: listen, i'm buying into your premise that the culture is deteriorating. >> toxic. >> bill: deteriorating and very quickly. i will say i'm a former lifeguard water safety instructor and guy to the beach a lot. i see 13, 14-year-old girls with these giant tattoos on their
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back. >> tramp stanks, bill. get the lingo down. >> bill: what is wrong with their parents? not a little tattoo. a giant red, blue tattoo. >> parents today see that and they say oh, laura, bill, our children are self-actualizing. they are being themselves. and your judgment really is not helpful to their development. that's the message the predominant culture is saying i say we all know that let's say you are 15 years old you are a guy and you put some kind of eagle on your arm. by the time you are 55 years old that's going to look like a seagull with cancer. that thing is going to have fallen and look terrible. at least et sticks particularly it doesn't work either. >> bill: we are going to trust teenagers to make judgments about their bodies we're in big trouble. >> not about smoking. they can't smoke. >> bill: that's why you have parents. you want to 25 and want to get an eagle. get an eagle. one of the things i feel has deteriorated. has led to the deterioration of the culture is the sense of
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entitlement. this narcissism that is really taking over. what is the root of that. >> i think it's parents who don't want to parent. they really do want to be friends with heir kids. they want to be the cool, hip, kind of housewives of x-city on the block. >> bill: it's more than that though. >> this is what they do, bill. in situations where kids, let's say have the musical tastes. parents, it's easier to say okay, kids are going to be kids. all the kids are listening to rihanna's s and m. all the kids are listening. >> bill: my my kids. >> concern shah get sleazy tour out of jones beach hottest selling tour of the summer get sleazy. previous hit called blow. okay? parents have to be parents. when they don't do that kids feel like they can do whatever they want. >> bill: you have always had derelict parents. always. >> it's much worse today. >> bill: my mother and father did not have a sense of entitlement, okay? because they went through the depression. worldworld war ii. >> easy baby. >> sacrifice was what they were used to.
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>> obama not to make this political. >> bill: obama. >> this book is not political. talking about sacrifice today. take obama out of it sacrifice today is how much of your money are you willing to give to acceptable causes? >> bill: how did that happen? the baby boomers my generation we have an awful strong sense of entitlement but not nearly what the younger generation. they think they are entitled to our money. they think they are entitled to special treatment. where did that come from? >> it starts at the beginning, bill. i'm a new mom. i have three young children okay under the age of 6. i fell into this whole situation very quickly. i have been assaulted by this. do you know 6-year-old birthday parties today remember the sheet cakes we used to have the store brand vanilla ice cream and the paper pin the tail on the donk from from the drugstore. today they are bringing in petting zoos and roving circuses to birthday parties. >> cirque du soleil? >> and little show up in baby couture. >> bill: can i have a personal question do any of your kids
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have tattoos. >> my kids right now at the beach. temporary tattoo and i didn't approve it maria you are not supposed to be wearing that. >> temporary tattoos. >> not maria, don't. there is a growing sense of entitlement in this country. individual americans believe where's mine? >> why don't i have a car? >> i'm willing to lie. >> i talked to my 20-something staffers all the time about this. like kids will come to the interview i want to talk about my vacation schedule. i look at these kids and go wait, are you kidding me? i'm planning a snowboarding trip in early february so i want to make sure work doesn't conflict with that i'm thinking. >> bill: where did it come from. >> it comes from parents who pass down the attitude. it goes from generation to generation. >> bill: you say that it's all parenting. but i think it's media-driven too. >> a lot of it is. it's the celebrity culture. >> bill: they see the younger people on the internet and on television and the radio, also, rewarded for the most self--look at the jersey shore people. they are rewarded for this awful behavior where they think they
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can do anything they want. >> strip it down, you strip it down and you will make more money. you will get more celebrity. you will probably get a reality show. maybe be able to sell your company for a lot of money. that he is the message. even talented people, bill. talented people out there can also fall into this trap and it's a dead end for young women. that's what i say to moms out there. it's a dead end for kids. >> bill: last question did you frighten matt lauer this morning. >> i think he was a little taken aback by the summer concert series bar. i think, look, a lot of these people -- >> bill: what about pour enrique tonight? >> do you want someone to speak to your daughter that way? i don't think so. you shouldn't sing lyrics that actually say the same thing. >> bill: laura ingraham, everybody, of thee i zing. you didn't even say anything bad about me in that book. >> no. you are in the acknowledgments. i will try to take that out of the seconds printing. next on the run down if america is indeed going to hell as miss laura says. whose fault is it? got to be somebody's fault.
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she says parents. we will hear what crowley and colmes says. new book profiles barack obama's controversial father. we'll have a factor cable exclusive on that and we're coming right back. woman: saving for our child's college fund was getting expensive. man: yes it was. so to save some money, we taught our 5 year old how to dunk.
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to be somebody's fault, right? here now barack and hard place duo monica cowellry and alan colmes. the point americans have to understand and younger americans in particular is there a drastic difference between the attitude and i think you would admit this, colmes, of our parents and how they look at their own lives and how they comported themselves then now. because of the sense of the depression, world war 2 the korean war. the 50s, everybody was basically conforming. now, it's like, look, i want x, y, and z. and i'm going to do pretty much anything to get it a lot of the things they want are pretty venal, am i wrong? >> if you think back to the 1950s if you mention i love lucy was a big show, right? lucy and desi had to sleep in separate beds. now you turn on any network in prime time which used to be the family hour and can you see soft core porn. >> i'm not real upset about that. lucy should have given desi a break once in a while.
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>> i trace it back to the 1960s counter culture. you had the antiestablishment, antiwar counter culture which changed the standards. so now you have got an everincreasing low standards that have become the norm. >> bill: what do you say. >> i feel like i'm in a time warp. this is a conversation every generation has. things were a lot better. kids say i heard that when i was a kid and by parents people would complain about the way things were much better when they were a kid. every generation thinks the previous generation is better than the next generation. >> bill: so you think, let's just take music for example. the music today is the equivalent of what it was in the 60's and 70s. >> [speaking french] >> it was okay because it was in french. >> bill: all the kids were saying it. >> heavy metal music. come on. >> bill: celebrated down. and the culture basically is saying to children, look, be crude, be crude. >> i don't think the culture is
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saying that i don't buy that. >> bill: what do you mean you don't buy it? >> i don't buy it we keep knocking young people. do you know how many young entrepreneurs we have the founders of facebook which i think is a positive to seat. the founders of twitter. we have young entrepreneurs, 20-something billionaires we never had before. young people today have doing a lot better in many ways. >> bill: you think that the social media, the internet has elevated the culture. >> elevated the culture. twitter helped foment a revolution that helped bring democracy to the middle east. >> bill: do you feel that way. >> positive aspects to it used for very coarse purposes as anthony weiner discovered, didn't he? >> downside. but i do believe that in large part it is driven by the media we talked about the 1960's counter culture as the result of that, you have an explosion of media. so back in the day there were three broadcast networks that aired i love lucy and dick van dyke. now you have hundreds of cable channels. you have the internet. and what happens is you get driven down to the lowest common denominator because that's the stuff that ends up getting rewarded. >> well, colmes, you make the
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point that there are some entrepreneurs younger people doing very well. i agree with you. but i think there is going to be a huge separation and this is something you don't want between those who are successful and those who go to the ivy league schools, those who are well educated. those who have privilege in their lives. they are going to be the masters of the universe. everybody else they are going to have tattoos on their forehead and pierced. >> not new. tattoos are not new. >> she talks about for example flash mobs in this book. used to have streaking. used to have more mosh pits. every generation has own elements of what you would call diminution of the culture. >> with the explosion of mass media now that kind of thing is so amplified that it is considered the norm. if the kids don't do it, then they are considered marginalized. other kids don't think they are cool. >> always pier pleasure.
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>> because of the proliferation of the media elvis presley gets on stage. they don't shoot him from the waste down because evidence is swivelling his hips. lady gaga can go and photograph all over the internet with all flags flying. people say i love her music. i want to be like her. >> if that's the reality, why is that bad? >> colmes says it's progress ant it st. isn't bad. >> severe coarsening of the culture. what we have seen through history, bill, empire cultures gone down this road of extreme permissiveness faltered and destroyed themselves. remains to be seen whether or not the united states is the exception to the role. >> what you say is permissive i say is healthy. gay marriage healthy. >> let it all hang out. >> drug legalization cost benefit analysis to that makes it much more healthy economically what you call permissiveness i call progress. we will disagree on this i'm sure. i believe it's forward movement healthy for society. >> bill: i hope you or any of your loved ones or anybody you know is never killed in a car by
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somebody who is high on narcotics. >> of course. that's the unintended consequence. >> that can help whether it's legal or not. >> bill: if it becomes amplified by a thousand fold. good debate. directly ahead. new book says barack obama's father was reckless and irresponsible. we have a factor cable exclusive on that. and then john stossel says states should not pass a law demanding parents and guardians report missing children. what? back in a moment. [ male announcer ] this is lisa, who tries to stay ahd of her class.
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>> bill: personal story segment tonight, as you may know barack obama's father was a kennian who died in an automobile accident at the age of 46. he was drunk. the elder obama was by all accounts a shadowy figure and the question is how did this effect the president, his son.
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with us sally jacobs reporter for the "boston globe" author of the new book the other barack bold and reckless life of barack obama's father. why do you use the word reckless. >> he was a reckless figure in many ways. he was certainly a heavy drinker. he had a great fondness for women. and he had a somewhat loose relationship with the truth. he tended to exaggerate things. sometimes pretended that he was someone he wasn't. >> he didn't spend many much time at all with his son barack obama. left when barack obama was a baby so he didn't -- there was only one other reunion, i guess, in 1971, right? >> correct. he did come and visit him for about a month in honolulu when he was visiting hawaii. >> what kind of a man fathers a child and then doesn't see him at all? i mean, what kind of a man does that? that, to me is, a condemnation of the elder obama. >> well, i think many men do that actually for different reasons. and the reason. >> bill: wouldn't you say that's deplorable. >> i wouldn't say it was deplorable. i would say this is something
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that happens quiet frequently. >> i want to get your mind set here. you as a reporter writing about this man, i think it's deplorable that a man fathers a child and ignores the child. you don't? >> that's not my judgment to make. i'm not evaluating his behavior. i'm describing what he did. i'm not judging him. >> bill: okay. now, he goes from hawaii to harvard, this guy. and all the while is he having trouble with the immigration authorities,, the u.s. authorities because they suspect that he is married to a couple of other women, not just barack obama's mother. but he gets to harvard. how did he get there? >> you asked me about whether or not he was reckless or not. the other word in the title was bold. barack obama was a very bold and intelligent danger. he was very character about passion and dreams. love of his life was to go back to kenya and be a player there for him to get into harvard was amazing triumph. >> bill: get in because of academics. >> sure because he was brilliant. graduated phi beta capital in three years from the university
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of hawaii. monumental achew. he got into harvard. >> bill: had the smarts to get into school. they didn't know what they were getting because the school of harvard threw him out. >> they knew what they were getting. very smart person. evaluated how he had done at the university of hawaii. what concerned them about him is the number of girlfriends he h he was a tribe he came from this is very typical. men in africa tend to have many wives. he would have done if he were home. >> bill: harvard didn't like that. >> no. >> bill: they kicked him out? >> yes. >> bill: the key question to all of this thing to link him to president obama at this point. why would, if your book is true and i believe it is, why would president obama knowing had b. his father, reckless, all of that write a book about him, dreams of my father? >> well, the truth is he really didn't know about his father. he had heard a little bit from family members but he was a boy who wanted to know about his father as any boy would. >> bill: he kind of glorifies
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the man in the book. >> you can see obama jr. looking for his father. who was this man? who am i? >> bill: wouldn't you say he glorifies the father in the book. >> oh. no i think on the contrary. he paints a very honest and direct portrait not only of his father but of himself. is he a boy who had been told his father was this great figure. weighs very complex figure. >> bill: i read the book and i felt there was sympathy. that the president was sympathetic to his father. that's what i felt. >> his father was a tragic figure. i think obama the president was very honest in his assessment of who his father had been. >> bill: you wouldn't use the word deplorable. i wouldn't use the word tragic. i think the guy was just a sociopath. how do you leave a little kid? i don't know how a man does that i would say he was. >> well, i think you have to read the whole book to find out. >> okay. ms. jacobs, thanks very much. we appreciate you coming on. in plenty more aas the factor moves along this evening. florida will most likely pass casey's law making a felony for
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>> bill: in the stossel matter segment tonight the proposed caylee's law. that florida statute would require parents and guardians to report any child gone missing within 48 hours. last week we said we think that law should be passed in all 50 states so people like casey anthony could be charged with felonies when their kids disappear. with us now our pal john stossel who disagrees. now, i know you don't like a whole bunch of laws piled on top of each other. but, if you look at the stats, 800,000 children go missing in the united states every year. 22,000 kids a day. this is an epidemic here. and i think that the law has to cover irresponsible parents and guardians. it has to.
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>> the law may not be a terrible law. i object to your rush to judgment and your rush to say that every state should pass this law and only kooks from even the far left and the far right they couldn't object to this. naming -- having laws passed after children who tragically die is just a bad way to make law. >> jessica's law worked out real well 44 states have passed it as you know, now that they have mandatories taking away the discretion from the crazy judges and these guys are paying a price. >> discretion can be a good thing. >> not in this case. >> well, jessica's law, which you pushed for. >> bill: right. >> may not be a terrible law though in california, the police are complaining that a lot of these people now are homeless. they have no place to live. >> bill: that's megan's law. that's not jessica's law. >> they said jessica's law. >> bill: they are crazy. jessica's law is a punitive action against child rapist and it's worked. let's get back to cailee's law.
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the stats show and i'm a stat man as you know that that 76% of abducted children who are murdered are killed within three hours of their abduction. so it is imperative that when the child goes missing that the people, the parent or guardian pick up and call 911. this casey anthony didn't do that we all know why. >> all right. a parent who is going to murder her child is going to be worried about this reporting law. >> bill: she beat the wrap. and if they had this cailee's law, they could have gotten her on a bigger felony and put her away for 10 years. >> she served three years. she was found not guilty. every time there is a judgment that we don't like we are going to pass a law? >> bill: she couldn't have been found guilty if cailee's law would have been in place. she didn't inform the authorities, so she would have got 5 to 10. >> she would have served more time. what about the person whose child dies and you are grieving and you don't report it? they are going to be prosecuted? >> bill: wait a minute. >> you have to report within an
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hour. >> so you grieve. >> pick up the phone and report. >> maybe you don't think to call the cops. >> maybe you are in shock. >> you should be prosecuted for that? >> bill: there should always be discretions. the discretion on the district attorney should allow for that. >> megan's law serious sex offenders and 16-year-old who's sleep with their girlfriends. >> bill: i'm not advocate of megan's law the way it's written. there has to be an alert to parents but i'm not pushing that this is a slam dunk. there are now 18 states since we reported it last week, 18 states have now gotten on board and it's going to be 50 before we're through with it. and i can't imagine anybody voting against this. no politician is going to vote against it because it's toxic if they do. you can do it because you are a commentator. a politician can't oppose this law. >> why is it good to pass laws when it's toxic to think about it? reminds me of sarbanes oxley after enron. >> bill: gives another tool to get people like casey anthony.
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to put them away where they belong in prison. she skated because they didn't have this. >> she may be -- she may belong in prison. it doesn't make it a good law automatically because she ought to be in prison. >> bill: you haven't convinced me that it's a bad law. you haven't. you just don't like the fact that there is another law coming down the pike. >> i don't like it that it says you must report. like, i ran away when i was 16. >> i was mad at my parents. they didn't know where i was. >> bill: they should have reported it. >> to the police? >> bill: yeah. if you are gone for 48 24 hours. >> 48. >> bill: i say 48 is a fair thing. >> some states are saying 24. kids run away. they disappear. >> bill: cailee's law 48. john stossel, everybody. >> think about it. >> bill: think about it you know when you ran away, your patience should have just let you go. all right. john stossel, when we come right back, is it legal on how much money it will cost to protect casey anthony and a pharmacist being sentenced to life in
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i got my first prescription free. call or click to learn more. [ male announcer ] if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. >> bill: thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly in the is it legal segment tonight, lots of controversy including bad news for pot smokers, that means you willie nelson. first, convicted liar but acquitted murdering casey anthony is expected to be released from a florida jail this sunday. but ms. anthony cannot go back to her old neighborhood because of all the bitterness against her. here now attorneys and fox news analysts kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. wiehl, does the state of florida have an obligation to protect casey anthony because there have been many threats made against her person? >> if there is a direct and credible threat they have an obligation as they would to any other citizen. if that isn't the case, as it hasn't been yet, there maybe no one threat to her just all these things that are out there. absolutely not. they shouldn't be spending a
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penny on her. >> bill: gets released from jail they give her a little money like 40 bucks or something. >> yeah. >> bill: she walks out of there with no protection. >> with no protection. once they release her and they have already said they are taking measures to release her. they are going to make sure that they bring her to one facility before they take her to another facility. her defense lawyer said they are going to be there they will have a whole team of people there the state of florida should pay nothing for that why the way, she has cost the state of florida hundreds of thousands of dollars through all of this. >> her phoney, you know, wild goose chase, lying about her child being missing when, in fact, she knew the child was deceased and that she had dumped the body in a garbage bag adjacent to the family home. >> bill: the state didn't prove that they did fine her $4,000 for the lies that doesn't cover nearly what the state -- >> it doesn't matter. a special motion to cover those extra investigatory loss. >> bill: they can't. >> they can get a judgment against her and can collect.
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>> bill: the state of florida is going to try try to attach whatever future earnings she may have to reimburse for all the chaos. >> why shouldn't they. >> bill: i'm up for that. >> they will -- what are the odds they will get that judgment. >> listen, if she makes money and signs on with a reality show and does magazine shoots and whatever other nefarious activity to try to profit from the death of her daughter they should and they have a right to go after her. >> it's not a son of sam situation. >> she can earn the money because of son of sam doesn't apply. >> of course that's what i'm saying. >> she gets money they are entitled to go after her and get a judgment. >> bill: calm down, guilfoyle, you are out of control. what are the odds of the state prevailing in a case like that. >> 1%. >> i disagree. i think the state can and should prevail and this will be an interesting precedent. i look forward to seeing this matter adjudicated. >> it's not legal. >> bill: summing up the first part of is it legal, all right? the state is not going to protect casey anthony. they are north going to spend any more money. if she does make money off this
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in the future, ghol after some of those earnings. i think they should but i don't know what the odds are. >> irs has a $70,000 lean on her. >> this guy pharmacist. >> south oklahoma city. >> i knew it was in the midwest. sorry. oklahoma city. roll the tape on this. two guys walk in. try to stick up the pharmacy but they don't have guns. they fake it. >> this is a pharmacy. >> so here is is a pharmacist. he shoots one -- knocks one guy down and he runs around and shoots him five times while is he unconscious on the ground gets life in prison. fair? >> convicted of murder. gets life in prison. this happened on monday. i think the sentence is while legally correct, really is not morally appropriate. he believes -- weighs on your show and he said this on the factor in 2009. >> he said he thought the guy was still a danger to him. >> absolutely that he was still talking. that he was still moving. that he had been hit in the head his watch it been knocked off. mother and daughter working in the store. he believed their lives were in danger at the time. >> you are saying lighter
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sentence to this guy. >> lighter sentence. eligible for parole in 38 years. one of the murderers. >> one of the victim, robber whatever you want to call him. 16 years old you say yes or no. >> absolutely crazy. it's not legally right. that malice aforethought is what you need for first degree murder. this guy had no malice aforethought. >> you are sympathetic with the pharmacist. is he going to appeal it? >> the decision just came down last week they said they are going to appeal. >> bill: the governor should commute the sentence. >> there is a motion before him to do. so motion being put forth house bill a republican. >> bill: don't want killing people in this case there are extenuating circumstances. the governor could eliminate all of this stuff by just going -- >> -- the judge made in my opinion reversible error in the trial itself. the judge did not included evidence that the defense want to the bring in to say, hey, look, when a guy is under this kind of situation, is he a military guy. >> lt. colonel.
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>> bill: absolutely. somebody comes in and i object vadz your home or your store. >> that's the problem with the law. that's why the law needs to be changed. >> very important. right now the law is only self-defense. >> in your residence. >> in a residence. >> this is going to be changed, i hope. >> do you ladies smoke pot. >> no. >> never. never. not once. >> bill: make a citizens arrest. >> never. >> bill: the d.e.a. says this whole medical marijuana thing is a ruse. do you believe that? >> it is a gateway drug. >> glaucoma or anything like that. >> never. >> zero tolerance on marijuana. >> i believe there are certain benefits for medicinal marijuana. laws on the book can adequately address it do i think that law is used by those use it for recreational purposes absolutely. >> the feds are basically going against the states. a lot of states have legalized medical marijuana. we don't believe there is any medicinal thing here.
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other drugs can do the same thing. >> this will be in the appellate court. >> bill: the states are going to prevail and do whatever they want. >> with gay marriage. doing it with marijuana. that's the way things are running. >> feds can't impose. what the feds can do is if they want to is they could raid one of those clinics and make a federal case out of it. >> they do that all the in san francisco. not. >> like 10 federal agents following willie nelson's bus. i don't have that confirmed. >> he has been pulled over twice. >> he has been pulled over on cheech and chong bus. >> while 80,000 illegal aliens border, we have 10 agents on willie's butt. >> willie is feeling no pain. >> getting the back draft of the fumes coming off. >> bill: is it legal, everybody, in a moment, karl rove will predict what is going to happen in the bitter debt controversy. and then, a marine scores a date with a beautiful movie actress. wait until you hear this. coming right back.
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>> bill: back of the book segment tonight, most pundits believe some kind of deal will be struck to raise the nation's debt ceiling but certainly a very bitter debate as you know. here now to make a prediction joining us from washington fox news analyst karl rove. so what's going to happen? i want you to contact magnificent. johnny carson car knack? tell me what's going to happen. >> let's not be car knack because every one of those turned out to be a phony outcome. look, i don't know what's going to happen exactly. we are going to have to have a deal. and the deal is probably not going to be as robust as the republicans want to have it to be. it's not going to include taxes like the president wants it to be. and it's going to leave everybody uncomfortable, unhappy and probably going to be done in such a way and at such a time as to discombobulate the bond
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markets. >> bill: that means economic consequence even if a deal gets struck, correct? >> sure, absolutely. partly pause part of the reason the president has declared in -- we have no idea what his plan is he talks about $4 trillion but he can -- if you had him on the factor tonight, he could not explain to you where that would come from in concrete detail. according to people who are part of the negotiations, he has declared off limits from any cuts obama care, the stimulus, any education, national institutes of health, any of his high speed rail projects. and almost all entitlements. the thing that he has offered on entitlement reform are things that are relatively small and have a relatively, you know, delayed impact. >> bill: republicans shouldn't vote for the deal if he ♪ doing meaningful cuts then i'm with michele bachmann. now, last night we had the congresswoman on the program and she said no matter, what even if the cuts are deep and in the right places, she is not going to vote to raise the debt ceiling. i got a lot of mail. the mail basically chided me for
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challenging mrs. bachmann and, as you know, i challenge everybody, including you. and i'm not worried about that. but, i am worried about some citizens, believing this is a phony deal. that the united states will not suffer economically if no debt ceiling rise comes. in and i wanted to get your opinion on that. >> look. here is the reality. the federal government is anticipated to receive $203.3 billion in revenues in august. the outflows, the entire federal budget is programmed to spend $362.7 billion. that means if you don't have a deal, and you have to live within the $203 billion you get, you have to cut $159.6 billion out of the federal budget in one month alone. that means, look, you can pate interest on the debt. so we don't default. can you pay social security checks. can you pay the checks of the active military. but you cannot find 45% of the federal budget that you can cut overnight without having consequences.
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i mean, brit hume for example i was talking with brit, i think he had a good example which was, you know, the agriculture department will say we don't have money to inspect food. >> bill: you and i and hume agree there will be consequences if this debt ceiling thing doesn't get done. i will take it a step further. i think the stock market is going to tank because they don't like uncertainty on wall street. i think foreign investors are going to go, you know what? i'm putting it over in switzerland. this united states thing out-of-control, nobody is in charge. they can't get anything done. so might have invested 200 million in the united states, paper, treasuries, whatever. i'm going to put it over into switzerland or some place else. that's going to hurt every american. i don't think the idealogues, people in the tea party, things like that, and then on the far left, those kooks, they are insane. i don't think they understand that this is a ripple down effect. everybody is going to get hammered. >> look. it happens on the other side, too. we don't get a good deal on this. and interest rates are going to
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rise and our economy is going to slow down further. that's why the president ought to be interested in getting the deal done right. >> bill: has to be. >> rather than scoring political points. that's my problem with this president. he has misplayed this. he has played this thing in a way that's diminished confidence in his ability to do a deal. diminished confidence in his word and put us in a place where the likely load that we end up getting something done is still going to be there but what we get done is not going to satisfy anybody and as a result we are going to suffer regardless. >> well, if he does that, if it drags out much longer and then's it's something that everybody hates, it just puts another nail in his re-election coffin, does it not? >> well, it depends on how you play this thing. you never know how these sort of, you know, government showdowns work. you know, tim pawlenty presided over a shut down in minnesota and got reelected. you know, bill clinton presided over a shut down as president and got reelected. it just depends on how, you know, who is the winner out of it. the executive -- >> bill: suffer economically and
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interest rates go up and the stock market goes down. that's not going to be good for president obama. that's what i think is going to happen. >> i hope you are right. >> bill: you think that deal is going to get done this week, next week? any guidance on that. >> the problem is the president is poisoning the well in the manner in which he is handling this. so this thing is going to be done later rather than sooner and may be done after the august 2nd deadline. maybe done sometime in august. not going to be of the nature that it's going to reassure the bond markets and everybody is going to be unhappy. the left, the right, the president. we don't need to be there. >> bill: mr. rove thanks so much. a marine sergeant scores a date with a glamorous movie actress. right back with p and p. so you can get back to playing "angry birds." it lets you access business forms on the go, fire off e-mails with the qwerty keypad, and work securely around the world so you can get back to playing "angry birds." it's the android-powered phone that mixes business with pleasure.
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>> bill: pinheads and patriots in a moment starring mila kunis and a marine sergeant. but first big summer sale. become a premium member you get the navy seal shirt free. please check it out. >> now the mail: >> bill: mary i'm stunned you didn't get the context. the congresswoman put forth she has a titanium spine. we riffed on that, she enjoyed herself. >> bill: not all that's her belief system, she's sticking to it.
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]%jz one was shouted down, no composure was lost. you may need to upgrade your tv might be getting distorted. >> bill: we challenge everybody here as you know. >> bill: looks like that movie
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will close to -- of course i'm taking credit. >> bill: never been, bali as close as i got. >> the shirts tend to do that. you have to see us on long island august 20th or october 29th to find out. check out those things on billoreilly.com. >> finally pinheads and patriots. marine sergeant moore currently serving in afghanistan set up a cue tube page asking 27-year-old actress mila kunis for a date. >> you can call me scott. i wanted to take a moment out of my day to invite you to the marine corp ball november 18th in greenville, north carolina
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with yours truly. think about it, get back to me. >> bill: when the video was relayed to miss kunis, here's what happened. >> i'm going to work on this for you. he invited out to marine corp ball. >> when? >> in november. >> november what? >> i don't know. >> i'll go. >> bill: excellent, miss kunis is a patriot. obviously so is sergeant moore, we hope they have a good time. >> that's it for us tonight. we would like you to spout off from anywhere in the world oreilly@foxnews.com. do not be a varlet when writing to the factor. remember the spin stops here because we are looking out for because we are looking out for youment closed captioning by closed captioning services, inc.

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